Just when we thought it was over.

We're tired of all the negative news associated with incarceration. There is an antidote to cynicism and negativity, and it starts by accepting [inmates] as human beings.

We wanted to tell the truth. We didn't think they'd sue us because they're a nonprofit, but they did. They sued a lot of people.

We've done this for years. You just get into doing something like that and you don't give it a thought.

I just thought it would be a way to encourage the life skills in a real-life situation.

It was spring, mud season. They had to sleep in a barn. They said they thought they would freeze to death. He was the old school of the show was going to go on no matter what.