You are looking at not spending any dollars and saying that the work that we have done on our buildings is sufficient…to spending hundreds and millions of dollars.

The scores are terrible. From a board perspective, it's very frustrating to look at these scores and not see changes.

The real purpose is to lay the groundwork to determine what we need to do with our buildings, what kind of shape they are in and what the future needs are. How much money do we want to put in our buildings, and what kind of shape do we want them to be in?

She had a ball. Before she was limited by her mom saying, 'This one's going to work and this one isn't.' So, it's like (Katie) went shopping, and she gets to pick the different fabric for the garments.

Just saying no, just doesn't work.

We're just saying that those studies don't exist that these products work.