What makes us different from consulting-type operations is that we are all manufacturing people. The things that we teach we have actually implemented in our plants.

License revenue for us is up 30 percent, and services and consulting revenues are also up, but not quite as dramatically. We are seeing a growth spurt.

The three of us all had worked for big tier-one consulting firms where it was common to put someone on a plane Sunday night, spend all week with a client, have him come back Friday night and repeat the procedure.

CONSULTING: If you're not a part of the solution, there's good money to be made in prolonging the problem.

The tech sector continues to be a drag. Outside the manufacturing sector, the market still has a long way to go.

It gives us jurisdiction we currently do not have. Historically, the criminal cases surrounding the large-scale manufacturing of illegal documents have been brought by the U.S. attorney.