We try to let them have fun, but we keep them under control. We try to find a happy medium there.

You're doing good. It's like you drive one of these every day.

Yeah, a lot of people aren't used to this. Most people like the hill. They like the idea of going up and seeing the blue sky, then coming down and just seeing the ground.

Definitely it was quite fun. When it?s like that, the bike?s working, the bike has got grip, and the lap comes together, it?s a lot of fun to ride the bike like that. Really enjoyed it.

I was hoping to go under (one minute) 29.5 and it is quite fun when the bike is working and the lap comes together,

It's really tough. You have no control over the wind. That's what makes sailing so fun.