They're not saying who bought it. I guess our only hope is to approach the new owners and see if they have any inclination to preserve some of the trees or make some accommodation for use of the stream borders.

This may be one of those things we write off as a lost cause. It's a shame though, it's perfect for a forest park. It's so close to the Columbia River, and there are some old trees up there.

Raising that kind of money would take up to five years. Developers and landowners don't want to face that kind of risk. The Trust for Public Lands can sometimes rustle up money faster than that, but they would have needed something to get started.

We absolutely want to hear what they're saying. That's why we're having the workshops.

We always learn something new. It's all about learning what people are saying.

Journalists say a thing that they know isn't true, in the hope that if they keep on saying it long enough it will be true.