Money that would have been available for maintenance gets pulled away. Deferred maintenance is really the result. That's not healthy in the long run.

We're looking at, in 30 years, what's going to be there. If you mess up, everything after that struggles.

That's one of those events related to growth that there was no party over.

When energy costs go up, we still get the same rate.

United may have to pay more cash to the PBGC and others … and it'd be difficult to find the money. They'll either have to get the banks to advance more or go find an equity sponsor who will put enough cash in there that creditors will get a meaningful distribution.

The issue here is not spending more money but rather how the money is spent. We need to put more money into the classroom and spend less on the administration.