It's a hard business to make a profit in. It's sad when a club closes. It's like a ship going down.

I'm not in the hockey business for profit, I'm in it because hockey is in my blood now.

We could, in fact, have the whole business in profit. But we want to keep growing. We did not get $10 million in the bank to earn interest.

The highest (profit) margin business is the intellectual property business. I think there's a trend of (companies) still being involved in parks, but on a licensing basis.

That's something I've found in any business that never works. You can't save your way to a profit.

Hockey can be a real tough business with the slimmest of profit margins, obviously.