That's something I've found in any business that never works. You can't save your way to a profit.

There was a certain amount of duplication that we couldn't afford. I think I understand things from a business side. I don't have the knowledge or experience from a player's side. I don't have that background that Otis does. But as a general rule, that's a coaching staff responsibility, and we hire from that perspective.

There is a U-shaped footing around the base of the shelter, so that when we pour wet concrete on the unit they anchor firmly in the ground. Then we continue to pour concrete -- up to 12,000 pounds of concrete.

I appreciate his attitude about this. It was the most difficult thing I've had to do with this organization. Otis is a quality person and has a lot of integrity and character. It's just a business situation. We have to manage our business on the income and expense side.

I'm not in the hockey business for profit, I'm in it because hockey is in my blood now.

We could, in fact, have the whole business in profit. But we want to keep growing. We did not get $10 million in the bank to earn interest.