In fact, without renunciation (tyaag), nothing [no spiritual development] can happen. Renunciation of what? Complete renunciation of illusion (bhranti)! Complete renunciation of the ego (ahamkar)!! Complete renunciation of the my-ness (mamata)!!!

All these are [relative] tools (sadhan) and that too, they are not subtle (sthool). One will have to go into the subtle (sookshma) [state]. What would happen if the tools themselves are believed to be the ultimate goal (sadhya)?

To run the worldly life, Egoism is not required. To bind [karma] for the next life, Egoism is required. If one doesn’t want the bondage for the next life, then also it is possible to conduct the worldly life without egoism. Entire worldly life is in the ‘discharge’ form. So it will continue to ‘discharge’ by itself.

One’ is not a doer in this world. Where he believes that he is the doer, there is ‘charging’ (of karma). When one tastes egoistic pride of, “I did this samayik, I did these activities”, he will ‘charge’ (karma). The taste of egoistic pride is very sweet.

Saiyam (a state free of anger-pride-deceit-greed, attachment and abhorrence) cannot be attained through egoism. Renunciation can take place through egoism. In renouncing, doership is required, there needs to be a doer of the renunciation.

The penance and renunciation that one is told to do is actually under the authority of the non-Self (parsatta). So how can that happen? Penance-renunciation, it is all a resultant effect of the non-Self (parparinaam). It is neither an effect of the Self (Swaparinaam) nor is it independent (swadhin).