If you put it into context of the over 20 million acres of Forest Service land, it is not that much. But every acre is precious.

It's certainly not cast in stone. A lot of discussion still needs to be had.

We're having tremendous problems with phone service. The reporters can't dial in here. The land lines are all messed up. Communication is a very, very big problem.

we're pushing 5 million acres.

Every acre is precious. But some of these are parcels that have been identified as surplus to our long-term management objectives.

We plan to develop on the land of a service apartment project with an estimated GDV of RM218mil, with tentative selling price of about RM800 per sq ft.