I think incentives are very much an integral part of the industry. It's a very sophisticated pricing tool. The Asians are clearly much more into the incentives game this year.

If they were to switch back to incentives, frankly, it would undermine everything they've done.

They are small, and one might think this is inconsequential but their numbers are creeping up. I don't think, based on what we know about Toyota, they should be ignored.

We're watching sort of the disintegration of what I think was a very important institution, a very important tool, to manage areas that were being blighted by maybe a small number of houses,

You're pricing it at what you think the goods are going to come in at, but it's always going to be higher.

We think this is very bad for Korean consumers and very bad for the industry in Korea and for mature innovation. Challenging the decision in Europe in court, we think we are going to win. Challenging this decision in court, we think we are going to win.