I just can't see going into more debt for a recreation center. There's needs, wants and desires, and we need to take care of the needs. I think it's foolish to have more debt.

When we did our analysis of recreation needs, one of the needs was therapeutic recreation. Therapy recreation is a very good way for individuals with disabilities to recreate with horses. There's a relationship there that's pretty good for autistic kids.

We're going to be doing some things different in recreation.

He's done a good job of saving and keeping debt low. He needs to keep up with his projections to make sure he stays on track. If the market is not good for the next nine years, he's going to have to work harder.

As far as the recreation department, he's been suspended for a year. It's in our recreation department rules that (there's) no physical contact on umpires or even verbal.

Bad debt was very high and the problem increased in the final quarter. The company needs to manage this.