As far as the recreation department, he's been suspended for a year. It's in our recreation department rules that (there's) no physical contact on umpires or even verbal.

We're going to be doing some things different in recreation.

I just can't see going into more debt for a recreation center. There's needs, wants and desires, and we need to take care of the needs. I think it's foolish to have more debt.

Wink asked me once to put together a board game or something like that which followed our rules, ... It probably would have made a few bucks if we could have copyrighted or patented it.

These are the rules for this. The first rule was I could only park for my walks in public places like this one.

It has been four years of tremendous activity. Some of the rules he pushed through were some of the most far-reaching in the country. That's what will be his legacy.