At the end of the day, they have real assets in this company and the stock price does not reflect that.

People aren't focused very much on this company anymore. The (market) space now is dominated by the larger players.

It's a great candidate for a trust. You just have to ensure you're not disrupting the other components of the business. I think there are some things they need to think about in terms of does it improve flexibility or reduce flexibility?

If it was, why would you make a change like this?

Our sense is that people don't have enough put away for a rainy day.

The best buyers are the ones who come knocking on your door, because they have an interest in your company.