And that's spreading to more of the urbanized areas, so instead of just the area in the beltway being congested, it's a lot more than that now.

I like rural areas.

The Amish overall are growing robustly and they have to colonize new areas.

In larger stores and areas, there is more anonymity from customers. We try to take away as much as that (anonymity) as we can.

This could be almost worse than Katrina because there are 4 million barrels of refining in Texas areas, much more than there was in New Orleans. (Texas) is the other major refining heart.

I think we performed very well in a couple areas, and not very well in others. Physically, we matched up pretty well. But we made some mistakes.