You do not build a rail system and it is there forever. It has to be replaced or rehabilitated every 25 to 30 years at a cost of billions.

It's not really about the stations; it's about people's lifestyles. All the pretty pictures in the world don't add up to anything, because the core thing that people need to know is the cost and the benefits.

It's not a place to come and die; it's a place for them to come and get rehabilitated and readied for sale, ... The purpose is to rehabilitate them and get them back into life.

We can fund it out of toll revenues.

What this requires of us is not to rail against the present, not to say it should be different, but to deal with what we've got right now.

When it comes to juveniles, we can arrest them, but with the system set up the way it is, the fines are small, jail time is small, and they're right back out on the street.