You do all sorts of analytical things to try to sell (airlines) on the notion that more capacity needs to be put into the market.

They are happening concurrently and that's the way it needs to happen. We need to be boosting the skills of our workers at the same time we are preparing our young workers.

Whoever is doing it needs to know that it's dangerous.

The airplane basically needs winds flowing under and over the wing for it to fly. When that wind or air changes direction, or doesn't flow in that direction, then it causes problems.

We don't want customers to be forced into buying something that isn't going to meet all their needs.

We've really tried to take into account those different needs.