When we were trying to find someone to help us, we couldn't find anyone to help us. We couldn't find any information.

I can only be better than I was 10 years ago.

We were such a loving and close family, and it just took the first four-five years to deal with the loss and try to come to terms with it.

They wanted to do something that would benefit an organization in the community. To help us learn what 4-H is all about.

I was just trying to do whatever I needed to help us win. That was the objective. Today we needed extra offense and at times, I provided that. Just not enough to get a win.

We're still trying to figure that out. We've hired experts to help us.