When I told him that I didn't think it was the right thing to do and also that there was no legal basis for it under the federal Power Act, he told me that he and his company, Enron, could no longer support me as chairman.

Everything they espoused to Congress and to state leaders was always what's in the best interests of Enron, never what's in the best interests of American energy companies.

I never saw Ken Lay as a huge energy player. I think a lot of people did. I saw him as a trading company. That's why I never really allowed him to exert any type of influence over me on what power companies or what utility companies should be doing in this energy industry.

It just really warms your heart. You know in your heart that it's the right thing to do.

They’re really sore right now,

I think the deployment strategy we have right now for our ambulances isn't the optimum model. The current system we have is a very good one, but with the status quo there is a problem in the outlying areas. If you have a critical emergency in some spots in the county you could be waiting a long time and in some cases, that could be too long.