What's surprising to me is that this is a question now that can go either way.

We went to court, got turned down. Went to court, got turned down. It [suing] all sounded good on paper. But who were we kidding?

Now it's a serious question. Back then it was a lark — a way of getting people to realize there were gays here. We were an invisible minority. I never thought we could get this far, this fast.

We were 'here, queer and weren't gonna take it anymore' and all that.

It's surprising to us how many people are either squarely in the import camp or in the domestic camp and don't cross-shop between the two.

The question I have is what alternative does either the county or the state have? ... Does anybody have a better plan for dealing with the 90,000 acres, given the property has to be sold?