What you start learning is that to get over a breakup, you kind of have to live through the emotions and not run away from it because then it lasts longer.

It's one thing if you write a song and somebody else sings it because you give the OK. But if your voice is on something and you don't get the credit, it's kind of hard.

If you're in a dark place, you're there for a reason. And the only way to get through to those kids or to other people going through the same thing is really to meet them in that dark place and then slowly bring them to the light.

You get to the point where you're like, 'I'm just doing me, and if people don't like it, then it is what it is.'

I got so excited about it. I was like, 'Yes! I won a Grammy!' And then my manager was like, 'No, you did not win a Grammy. You were part of a song that won a Grammy. Rihanna won a Grammy.'

I went through that stage of the Mumford & Sons and the Alanis Morissette vibe. I was in a dark place at the time.