We're really not talking about bad faith here. Both liberals and conservatives sincerely believe that the best interpretation of the Constitution calls for results they prefer.

The Liberals that I'm speaking to, they think that Harper is the best thing that they have going for them, ... They think that Harper is finished.

Unlike the June vote when the Liberals pulled out all stops to survive, this time they aren't afraid of a fall election. In fact, party sources say they are already organizing for an early election. That's one of the reasons they are rushing to put together an energy rebate program.

We've been talking about it. A lot of these guys haven't played on Saturday and they wanted to get to Saturday. They wanted to get a chance to get to the end of this tournament. Saturday is the end, so we are there.

We're not talking about some trivial violation.

That's the worst we've played since the summer camps. We weren't talking to each other enough.