We'll have to see how those programs do. Those have traditionally been somewhat difficult and a headache (for PC vendors); it means more support calls and technical calls.

I would prefer that it had never existed. The headache has been enormous.

We had some signature wins against some traditionally strong programs like Tensas and Riverdale. It wasn't a one-game season, but this was the most important game of the season. It was a disappointing way to end it.

This market is somewhat difficult to call.

It's a headache,

It's a difficult process. It's somewhat discouraging and that's putting it mildly.