We were proactive then and imposed the sanctions on ourselves that we still feel were sufficient. That's where we are today.

Sanctions are imposed as a penalty, and the lifting or easing of these sanctions should be used as an incentive for subsequent compliance.

It really comes to life with him spanning the 50, 60 years and he's touched all of their lives directly, it's not a six degrees of separation. It shows what a treasure he is and how lucky we are to have him around.

People who have watched the program over the years appreciate what has been achieved and who contributed to it.

We are not proposing economic sanctions at the moment. Mugabe has already imposed the most terrible economic sanctions on his own people by collapsing the Zimbabwean economy.

We'll be proactive. If we feel we need to bump him for a start, we won't hesitate.