We want to be in places where there are significant populations and good demographic profiles.

I say they're misinformed. In a place like Wake Forest, the scholarships are worth $40,000 or $50,000 apiece. They spend $15 (million) or $20 million a year in scholarship aid. That money has to come from somewhere.

I don't think it's in the cards.

That's publicity that you can't even put a price on.

Every guy in the room right now believes that we can do it.

We gave them every opportunity to get back in the game and take the lead. When you give skilled guys that much time and room, they're going to make you pay. That's the situation we put ourselves in and that's what we're going to have to live with now.