We used to be pioneers in all this stuff. Everybody I talk to feels like we've been sold out.

Foreign imports, ... are being sold at 25 to 50 percent below Florida prices. They are squeezing Florida producers out of this market.

It kind of upsets me that they're playing a shell game and they're only giving the information they want to give.

I'm going to have to do without to make those payments.

That is where they are really pioneers.

We were really great pioneers,