We tried to make this fight many years ago but the stumbling block was always what Roy wanted to be paid.

Until we see a little more, I don't want to say there's concerns or a stumbling block.

That's going to be the big stumbling block. The Coastal Commission has expressed resistance to any armoring. But when you compare it to other armoring that's been approved... we want to do armoring to protect private property so we can manage a habitat better to protect two (threatened) species, steelhead trout and red-legged frogs.

Arrogance is blind to the stumbling block.

A stepping-stone can be a stumbling block if we can't see it until after we have tripped over it.

We're still as confident, as optimistic as we ever were. You know we hit a little stumbling block here, but I think it's going to be good for us because we can learn from it.