We made records to document ourselves, not to sell a lot of records. I still feel that way. I put out a record because I think it's beautiful, not necessarily commercial.

I actually don't think that I'm gonna sell a lot of records.

I still hold on to the idea that a record can really change the way I feel.

I think, No. 1, I still have a long way to go.

I think he can make it based on what he's done. If he feels comfortable, I feel comfortable.

The second record didn't sell as well and I think if we were on a big label, we might have been passed up on for the third, but they're a smaller label and the owner (Steve Gottlieb) likes us. So I think we deserve that chance with the first record doing so well.