We kept our finger firmly planted in the eye of the establishment when Murdoch owned us, ... It's part of our genetic makeup.

invest in editorial. This is what they're about. It's quite refreshing.

The issue is, what's in the newspaper? I would challenge anyone who's critical of this to point to anything in our papers or the New Times papers that's establishment. It's flat-out not true.

They are both independent, rather ferocious while poking their finger in the eye of people with power or people who think they have power.

All the time our union was progressing very nicely. There were lectures to make us understand what trades unionism is and our real position in the labor movement.

Of course, we knew that this meant an attack on the union. The bosses intended gradually to get rid of us, employing in our place child labor and raw immigrant girls who would work for next to nothing.