We hope the start-up is flawless. But we have never done anything like it. We could start putting oil in and we could see things we haven't seen before.

For now, though, oil and gas are irreplaceable.

We expect to get back to 125,000 barrels per day quickly.

Just put two people in a car instead of one.

The faster the fervor goes up, the faster prices go up. But they will go down sooner or later, probably within the next year.

These are just some efficient ways without spending a lot of taxpayer money [to reduce energy costs ]. But if you get $ 3 [a gallon ] gasoline, people may say, 'I don't know if I want to live in Benton and drive to work in Little Rock. I may live in Little Rock.' But it's really hard. You're talking about people's lifestyles. It probably will happen gradually.