We didn't kill them. The court sentenced them to death. There is a huge difference between killing and transferring the defendants to the court. They carried out an operation, an attempt on the president's life.

Where are you getting these documents? Whose hands are behind them?

The general prosecution is obviously biased and wants to use everything to convict us. I demand a non-biased and non-Iraqi committee (of handwriting experts) because there is a crisis in trust between us.

I refused to cooperate because I was afraid that people say I am thirsty for power.

In the beginning they came and told me that I can stand in front of the judge and tell him that I cannot go on and then I can leave. But then we're surprised to find that there is an actual session going on. I do not want to continue the session until my lawyer is here.

The biggest problem in South Africa is that we have a disrupted timeline. Historically, politically, spiritually, economically, in people's minds, in people's heads.