We could see that coming on the bench.

He assured me that he wants to go to the bench without a political agenda,

It was an adjustment, to go from starting to coming off the bench. It wasn't a rut.

I kept looking down the bench to see if Steve was coming back, so much so I may have whiplash. But the guys did a great job without him.

I think of him as a starter, but we've got him coming off the bench. Whether he starts or comes off, he's going to give you the same effort. He's been pretty good for us.

that he wants to go to the bench without a political agenda, that he is not bringing a hammer and chisel to hammer away and chisel away on existing law.