We collect a lot of money, but we spend a lot of money. So I think there's some opportunities for greater efficiency, greater cost effectiveness.

We think it shouldn't really be that dramatic a difference across the state, because how you're treated by the child support enforcement system should not depend on where you live. And right now it does.

Overall we think the department is doing a good job.

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The plan was to be aggressive. They were more of a team that you can shot fake and go. They try to get out in the passing lanes. We got them in foul trouble early and then we quit taking it to them.