We can safely say we're talking $4 [million] to $4.1 million this year.

I think this is just as good as an independent study. They weren't hired by the university, they are paying the university.

Not only does [the university] contribute to the knowledge base and the cultural base, we make significant impact on the economic base of the county.

It is just part of the evolving market. We are just doing it a little less subtly than Disney does it, and it is happening all at once. It's just what happens. It's called evolution. Every 20 years or 30 years, it churns.

I know more than I ever wanted to (about GMOs). I'm perplexed at why we are here even talking about this.

It may well be that some of this is gamesmanship. But we are talking about the FBI and INS, and they don't do this lightly. At least I hope they don't.