To change a country's energy habits, you need determined public policies.

We are not interested in becoming the Saudi Arabia of ethanol. It's not our strategy because it doesn't produce results. As a large producer and user, I need to have other big buyers and sellers in the international market if ethanol is to become a commodity, which is our real goal.

We began to blend increasing quantities of ethanol in our gasoline pool.

We have very ambitious expansion plans. We are planting more sugar cane fields. We are building new factories. The prospects are just fantastic.

They aren't able to sell their product. Basically, the people who produce oil, they don't like us because we are getting their markets. It's very simple.

(It's) extremely important. We feel very proud.