Those are the kind of programs we would like to see subsidies shifted into.

For every dollar abated, the tax is shifted to someone else.

I'm a heart-on-the-sleeves kind of person.

I am kind of excited, but I don't want just that. I want to go farther than that.

I write my programs primarily for myself.

The thing that sticks out to me about him, he's our kind of player. He's a grinder.