They're very good at what they do. That's my biggest challenge, finding the right person to instruct it.

Everyone was shocked because of their new assessment of property. It's been two years since then and people are back out. They can start breathing. They have a little extra income. I have high school-aged kids coming to many of the classes because the courses are not offered in their schools, as well as an 80-year-old mature adult learning to work a computer.

It's not gambling, though. We're not teaching people how to gamble.

Even my daughter, who's 20, can't boil water.

It's really a challenge to assess their populations. The only way to really see them is during the spawning run.

That contest was a real challenge. I don't really cook with convenience products.