These are the people who've made it through the red tape. They had the fortitude to get here. I'm continually amazed to see what patients have done with their lives when they've been in the state a short while.

It's important to have confidentiality.

It was a little better than we thought, actually.

If they do reasonably well on the operating side and they don't have all these payments for restructuring, they could be cash flow positive, which could be very good for the company. That's what people are looking for.

They've cleaned themselves up and have done very well. They're basically consolidating the industry.

It all feels the same when you're helping people. It's very intense.