There's several great points from our standpoint in that game. It was Backe's first time back, and he kept us in the ballgame. And Wandy Rodriguez, who has been a starter, he goes out and gives us one inning and kind of bridges our bullpen.

He had us in a hole all night. He found the strike zone and he said, 'hit it,' and we didn't.

It might be a little more difficult to get (Quintero) a whole lot of playing time, ... Chavez has had playoff experience, and he's caught our whole staff more than Quintero.

I moved him for Morgan. When he came back from the hand injury, I wanted him in a position where guys are going to have to pitch to him and he's going to get pitches. I switched him back because I didn't think he was swinging the bat that good. I prefer to have Lance in that third hole and as it turned out today, Morgan came through big.

These guys are tough, I'm telling you. I don't recall any easy games against them. But we'll take it because it was important.

Usually, over the years, I manage to keep the closer pretty well spread out, ... That's not been the case this year.