There's nothing ridiculous about our appeal.

He has boots-on-the-ground experience about what the actual conduct of the war in Iraq is.

There are a fair number without status and a fair number on student visas.

A soldier may be a refugee if he objects to a war which violates fundamental human norms.

We're asking that this court state that we would have a right to litigate that question and provide evidence on that question.

Our view is that if the United States does not recognize that people have a right, under the U.N jurisprudence, to object to certain types of wars, then they can't go to the U.S for protection, they have to come to Canada.