There is money available, but you have to be persistent. It's a difficult process.

It's our No. 1 complaint. The Internet and e-mail are giving these people new lead-in ways to address people.

They don't care. It's not their money they'll be spending. It's taxpayers' money.

We're not pressed to sell it. We're making money, and things are going well.

I don't know why they did it and I don't know where the money went. I don't know if it was used for operations, which I imagine it was. I think he was robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Money changes people just as often as it changes hands.