There are some significant gaps in people's knowledge,

If we do not protect our courts, our courts cannot protect us.

The ABA position is that some of these provisions are so invasive of individual liberties that there has to be a sunset provision. They're offensive, I think, to democracy,

Our laws and attitudes on immigration have been almost schizophrenic. At times we have thrown open our nation's doors virtually without limit; at other times we have tried vainly to build walls - legal and physical. Today our laws reflect that confusion.

The ABA does not, and we will not, protect the interests of any political party or faction, nor the interests of any ideological or interest group.

It seemed like the knowledge base was a lot deeper than it had been, ... The system seemed to be well thought out.