There are 150,000 students from China. Some of those are sent here to work their way up into the corporations.

We now see almost all of the adversaries, the Chinese being a classic example, of using students, delegations, researchers, visitors ... and false-front companies.

Even as we increase our numbers of agents, we can't possibly totally stop it.

Students in this course work at their own pace.

It's nice for the students to have something modern to work with.

And when I see students now, I just don't think they are prepared to work so hard. It comes too easy.