The White House thinks the give-and-take leads to a livelier event with more energy. They're trying to show he's at ease, and that he wants to interact with regular people.

There's criticism the president is isolated and doesn't understand what real people's problems are.

He knows the energy you expend from trying to get from point A to point B to point C. And when somebody lies and that throws your trail off a million miles from where it ought to be … the lie is a lot more consequential.

He knows the energy you expend from trying to get from point A to point B to point C. And when somebody lies and that throws your trail off a million miles from where it ought to be … the lie is a lot more consequential.

We just didn't have any energy left. We couldn't execute anything we were trying to do there at the end.

It doesn't matter when I come in the game. I'm just trying to boost my team's energy up and give them as much as possible.