The piece we kept coming back to is that Michael was stabbed five times with a pretty big knife in some pretty significant spots on his body. That didn't line up with Alex's saying he was on his knees fighting for his life.

All I know is that we kept coming at them.

Of course, there's only one person who stabbed the victim. They were not all holding the knife. But when we arrived, all those people were involved.

I'm very heartened by the fact that there has not been this pouncing, coming in with a dull knife to start hacking away. We have thrown a lot of revenue to them over the last decade and there's an acknowledgment that this is a down cycle.

He didn't even know he got stabbed.

I remember that the bloodstains on his pants didn't match up with him being on his knees. And there was only the one injury to his head.