The main thing is we operate as a business.

It was imperative that we assembled a group of people who were truly committed to the business and getting it through thick and thin. People probably don't recollect quite how difficult it was for the company to attract good talent and keep them motivated.

Everything I knew about LSU came through Karl Dunbar,

A good part of that would have been my salary.

As you can see we don't have any lights on.

We're beginning to fall behind as a nation in technology. If (the Challenger Center) can stimulate students to become more interested in math, science and technology, we've done our job.