The long and short of it is, we need more rigor in all kinds of programs.

I think all kinds of parents are different in what they're seeking.

Higher education is confronting challenges, like the economy is, about the need for a higher number of more adequately trained, more highly educated citizenry.

For too long, actually, we have either said you're this or that.

But the other notion is, we also believe that those folks closest on the ground that we're holding accountable for the results can decide, and ought to evaluate which programs get results.

What we know is the workplace is more demanding than ever before.