The legislator learns that when you talk a lot, you get in trouble. You have to listen a lot to make deals.

We're in trouble if (Edmonds) doesn't. We may have to go into one of our last-minute deals.

I'll talk. You'll listen.

I was going nuts. We kept putting ourselves in trouble, making error after error. But who cares what I thought? We have won the World Cup.

As a survivor, you learn how to talk fast, cut deals, lie when you have to - perfect training to be a politician, you know?

The central dilemma in journalism is that you don't know what you don't know.