The last two years have really been tough. We've actually lost money.

They're outdated dinosaurs. It's a tough business these days. The land cost alone prohibits it.

I don't want anybody to ever say we let the facility go.

We'd like to get the money in their hands now, if we can.

I think we more than hold our own with the big money.

I still tell him he owes me money for my phone bill.