The idea is to create an environment where people can have the best of all worlds.

They are a good tenant, one of our top 10 anchors now. They draw people to our properties.

Early accounts coming in to us say that people are running across malls to the department stores to take advantage of the best deals.

If you look at the operational environment in which we're now operating and the one we think we'll be operating in the future, we think that is not where we should put our focus,

We always did say we were going to look at the fountain and see if we can keep it. If not, we were committed to a water structure.

They're very popular with retailers and municipalities who like it because it gives a sense of place, the New Urbanism so popular with customers, popular with tenants and municipalities. It's a great environment for us.